subversion within a group and the problems of a hierarchy.

In this essay http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/GodGrandchild.HTM Steven Dutch discusses some of the problems with subversion within.


Also he writes (http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/ComplexAdaptive.HTM):This interaction of top-down and adaptive components results in what I call the Paradox of Authority-in-Democracy. Overall, despite its failings, we live in a democratic society. Nevertheless, most of the day to day decisions in our society are made by authoritarian means. Students don't elect their teachers or vote on grading standards, workers don't elect their bosses, we don't elect our police officers or set speed limits by market means. Yet there are enough adaptive mechanisms to keep authority in check.

What Steven Dutch is seems to be saying is there is a hierarchy in any group but the group works better if there is feedback. Feedback is something you find in electrical engineering and negative feedback in  a circuit helps promote stability.

In any case hierarchy is an issue that Hegel goes into and it seems to correspond to his Metaphysics.

In any case what you see with Steven Dutch is  an unusual amount of flashes of insight,--insight that suggest solutions to great problems.  He he is suggestion that the important thing about the American Constitution is that it has feedback, and is a combination of atop to bottom and bottom to top kind of system.
One trouble with the communist system is in fact it is totally top to bottom once they get power. But they can get power because of the promises that attract people and that they do seem to keep.--to get rid of exploiters.

She was spoiling for a fight

Comment on Red Pill Girl blog:

"I vividly remember my ex. When she was having a bad day, something upset her, was spoiling for a fight that had nothing to do with us … I’d grab a rag and container of comet [soap]." CLEAN …" I would tell her. And after awhile she knew the drill. Rag and scrub and clean and make her house her home. Made her feel better. Feel settled. It worked. She’d work out her energy and feel better."


I think a lot of guys go through the same thing. They get home after a frustrating day and they find their wife just ready and raring for a fight. But if they take the soft approach, she gets more and more angry because he refuses to fight. If he takes the hard line they she gets to go to court and accuse him of abuse.
Today women have dug themselves into a deep pit- with the help of the "religious leaders" of course--the agents of the Dark Side. Religious teachers teach  but they present the  paradigm of the Sitra Achra [Dark Side] as a traditional Torah paradigm and not a  creation of their delusions.  This is far more dangerous than the overt teaching of idolatry.

The best idea that I know is that of Reb Israel Salanter--to learn Musar {Mediaeval Ethics.} but along with outdoor skills. That is to learn ethics and loyal and dependability is not just from books but from team work and practice.--That is the origin of the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts. [Nowadays the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are no good. They gave up their morality for money.]

Evil religious leaders. This is a subject that  has been around. My first thought is the false prophets. Then warnings in the Talmud about the פרושים "Pharisee"-usually identified as Talmud scholars, but in fact people the Talmud criticizes as being hypocritical . But it comes up  so often that I wonder if perhaps it is not from the curse of Jeremiah since God sent us true prophets and we did not listen so he will send false prophets and to them we will listen. The trouble is this---there are true teachers but they generally are willfully ignorant about the presence of bad teachers or are quiet about this problem. In the ocean of false and bad teachers how many people are willing to state the truth fearlessly? Not many. Most teachers would loose  their livelihoods.

Here is a comment from the blog Dalrock:
 "I am the first to admit that I was a total supplicating husband (aka Kitchen Bitch) because I was fully indoctrinated into the ideology through  marriage books and programs. I bathed the kids, put them to bed, changed the diapers, washed the dishes, cooked, cleaned, and this was in addition to operating my own construction company and tending to the yard and maintenance and repairs. It caused my ex to only grow deeper and deeper into depression and misery, lose all attraction and respect for me, withdraw completely from sex and affection, ultimately divorce.\
 I watch so many couples living this out now still and I openly try to warn my friends and other husbands away from it. I subsequently have few friends and the wives are not keen on their husbands hanging out with me. The blatant feminism, divorce encouragement, cowardice of religious  leaders who  continue to promote this garbage and bow before their wives and all other women in the congregation..."



I should mention: 

There is nothing disjunctive about והוא ימשול בך “and he will rule over you and to him will be your desire” which God said to Eve is a regular Hebrew phrase and its meaning is not ambiguous.

מושל there is used many times in the Bible. One example is להשם המלוכה ומושל בגוים To God is the kingship and ruler-ship over the nations. The idea comes up also in the book of Esther the letters that were sent out by Xerxes “that ever man should rule over his own home and speak in his own language.”
Why would a pastor claim this is disjunctive when it is clearly not so is beyond me.
It could not be more clear.

Welfare is really enforced servitude of white to serve black

Nationalism mainly finds justification with Hegel and Howard Bloom. Autonomy of the individual finds justification with Kant. My own point of view is more based on the Law of Moses. That is I put the center of gravity not in the individual nor in the nation but in the Law. But in any case there are some very good points in the idea of stopping the destructive aspects of diversity and welfare etc.

Welfare is really enforced servitude of white to serve black. Diversity is really a way to undermine traditional American values.

The whole Bava Sali thing seems to have puttered out of steam. Still there are unique and special people within that tradition.  I was very impressed with one grandson of Bava Sali, Shimon Buso. But there might be others.The  daughter of Bava Sali, Mrs Buso married  fellow by the name David Buso and that is where the name come from. I am not much into the dynasty thing but in this case it looks valid to me.  My impression is it is worth the time and effort to get a blessing from Shimon Buso. [He is in Jerusalem on Shabat and Netivot during the week.]

The main thing I saw in the whole Bava Sali family was what you could call straight Torah. No "tikunim" or kabalistic stuff.
There are descendants of Reb Yaakov Abuchatzaira also around whom are certainly worthwhile to visit.

Besides that it is entirely possible the Bava Sali thing is still around. I was in Netivot for about  a year and went to Rav Montag's yeshiva for about an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening and it occurs to me today that that was a time that God granted to me a great deal of סייעתא דשמיא help from Heaven concerning the book on Bava Metzia. That is from pages 104 until page 112.

You have to do your own work to find out where the descendants of Bava Sali and Yaakov Abuchatzeira are because I do not know except for Shimon Buso.  

Enlightenment

The problems with the Enlightenment were noted almost as soon as it began. The solution is not clear because the weakening of faith in the Catholic Church seems to have been a major factor(or The Major Factor). Yet the Catholic Church does not seem so great today.
What the Middle Ages had that we lack is the synthesis between Faith and Reason. 




What Lithuanian yeshivas have done is to not reject the Middle Ages nor that unique approach that existed then of combining faith with reason.


Modernity has either fanatical faith without reason, or fanatical reason without faith.

In the Litvak [Lithuanian] Yeshiva world, two things stand as foundations: Rishonim [Mediaeval authorities] and Musar [books of ethics written by Mediaeval Authorities]. 

[I should admit, I have trouble understanding Rishonim. I always find it much better for myself to see what later people (Achronim) wrote about the Rishonim. This began for me right away as soon as I came to learn in yeshivat Shar Yashuv. I find, I never understand Tosphot until I look at the Maharsha, Rav Shach, or  Reb Chaim Soloveitchik's school and then look at Tosphot. Same with Musar. I found traditional books of Musar to be incomprehensible until I looked at the disciples of Reb Israel Salanter. In fact, whenever God grants to me the privilege of opening up a Gemara, usually the first thing I do is to look at the Maharsha and Maharam from Lublin before anything else.]

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Musar (Books of Ethics). Reb Israel Salanter's idea of making a movement that would concentrate of learning Books of Ethics.

The curious thing about the disciples of Reb Israel Salanter is not just that they came out with different approaches all based on Musar but that each presented their approach as The Right One. In the newer Musar approach most of the aspects that were unique to the Musar movement all got forgotten.

I can not tell what to think of this. After all Musar represents different points of view.

That is even if you go back to the original set of Medieval books some go more with the Rambam Saadia Gaon approach and others with the Ramban [Nachmanides].  Later when Kabalah got thrown in, all the more so the approaches begin to differ,
Once you get to the great Musar yeshivas, Mir, Slobadka, Navardok, Kelm, it gets even more diverse.

What seems to have happened is people settled on one basic approach that they found was workable--Musar and Gemara. And with that every individual will find in Musar what he or she needs to learn from it. That is about the best I could figure out from what I saw. This Musar and Gemara approach also makes sense to me.

Or at least it is the approach that I hope to stick with. [My own approach is more or less this: Gemara Musar, Rav Shach's Avi Ezri, Physics, Math. That is based on the more rational Rambam Saadia Gaon approach to Torah.]

In a nut shell it is hard to explain why Rav Shach's Avi Ezri is so important but basically it is the need to understand Torah beyond extra forms. One needs to get to the essence of Torah.

 But the place for Torah learning from what I can tell is  in  a Litvak yeshiva where you find the spirit of Torah. Maybe Torah VeDaat or Chaim Berlin or some authentic yeshiva. But no fakes. The fake and phony yeshivas destroy the spirit of Torah and one must run from them.