The fundamental idea of pagan religion is everything is Divine

The reason the Gra signed the excommunication was that he was against the idea of representing the Torah as a  pagan religion —

 The fundamental idea of pagan religion is everything is divine and filled with divinity. That the universe is some kind of MetaDivine realm.


Since the Gra saw people teaching this in the name of Torah he thought it would be best to make a clear distinction between Torah and pagan religion.

This obviously was ignored by the religious and so they continue to this day teaching pagan religion in the name of Torah. They get away with this scam because they disguise this in cute little rituals.

The super-organism based on some higher social meme

The super-organism based on some higher social meme-- that is the Howard Bloom formulation. He was thinking of the best model as that of the USA constitution. But as someone mentioned that politics is downstream from religion. So to me the Law of Moses is the best meme. But to Maimonides Torah is downstream from Physics. Physics is downstream from metaphysics.The question then is why would these contain a higher aspect of value? I think with Hegel it is possible to answer this question.
The absolute idea flows into metaphysics and downstream from that is physics etc. but with Hegel alone this would translate into a top to bottom system as communist systems are in fact base on Hegel

What you need to bottom to top feedback as with a Democracy.

The problem in the religious world

The problem in the religious world is every area of value deteriorates into its opposite.
What that means is when art deteriorates it becomes anti art i.e. Picasso, Music becomes anti music. Torah when it falls becomes anti Torah. And that is worse than anti art because anti Torah i.e. force of unholiness the forces of the dark side demonic forces.


The solution to this was found by the sages דרך ארץ קדמה לתורה. Derech Eretz [work and manners] comes before Torah.
Thus the Rambam says that the occupation of learning Physics and Metaphysics is above learning Torah. [This is open in the parable of the king in the state at the end of vol 3 in the Guide for the Perplexed.]
He found in these a higher kind of numinous value than Torah itself.

The simple thing would be to fire all the pseudo teachers--if only people would listen.

s43 A Major

The devotion to Torah in the Litvak world

The Haredi world ought to be divided conceptually into two parts. The Litvak (Lithuanian) yeshiva world which is basically loyal to Torah and try to keep its values. Marriage there tend to have a kind of synergy   because of devotion towards God and his Law. There are however other groups which are strict about rituals but are cults and in fact the marriages are quite abusive in both directions,

The devotion to Torah in the Litvak world tends to raise the marriages towards a transcendent goal.
There is almost nothing in the religious world that I consider kosher at all. To me they all look like cults of idolatry except for the yeshivas like Ponovitch that are clearly into straight Torah. The rest of the haredi world seem to me to be walking mummies. Dead and worshipers of the dead.

Alliances makes  a difference and the yeshiva world made a big mistake in aligning itself with what is the haredi world, They have a lot more in common with the Reform and Conservative who  who also try to keep Torah but with less emphasis  on rituals. But Reform and Conservative certainly do not worship the dead like the rest of the haredi world.

[I  was never part of Ponovitch but the general yeshiva world tended to be alike in this respect to love and devotion towards God and his Law. That is my impression anyway about pretty much anyone I met in that world. They shine with the inner light of Torah. Maybe that is just my subjective observation, but it seems to me to be real. ]

Of course it take some kind of merit to be a part of the authentic Litvak Torah world which I apparently do not have. Maybe the problem is once one walks away from it the door gets locked behind him. Or perhaps some sin causes some kind קלקול corruption in the עולמות העליונים.

In any case the religious world  is different from the yeshiva world and it is basically demon possessed. It makes a good show of keeping Torah but the inner energy is from the dark side. They are always begging money from secular Jews but when someone needs their help they always hurt when able an never help.

I tried to explain this once in some blog post that it is the result of the fact that every areas of value has an opposite area of value. Some the world of Torah when it falls it falls into anti Torah. This is the same with music or art. It it is not a phenomenon that is exclusively in the Torah world.

subversion within a group and the problems of a hierarchy.

In this essay http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/GodGrandchild.HTM Steven Dutch discusses some of the problems with subversion within.


Also he writes (http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/ComplexAdaptive.HTM):This interaction of top-down and adaptive components results in what I call the Paradox of Authority-in-Democracy. Overall, despite its failings, we live in a democratic society. Nevertheless, most of the day to day decisions in our society are made by authoritarian means. Students don't elect their teachers or vote on grading standards, workers don't elect their bosses, we don't elect our police officers or set speed limits by market means. Yet there are enough adaptive mechanisms to keep authority in check.

What Steven Dutch is seems to be saying is there is a hierarchy in any group but the group works better if there is feedback. Feedback is something you find in electrical engineering and negative feedback in  a circuit helps promote stability.

In any case hierarchy is an issue that Hegel goes into and it seems to correspond to his Metaphysics.

In any case what you see with Steven Dutch is  an unusual amount of flashes of insight,--insight that suggest solutions to great problems.  He he is suggestion that the important thing about the American Constitution is that it has feedback, and is a combination of atop to bottom and bottom to top kind of system.
One trouble with the communist system is in fact it is totally top to bottom once they get power. But they can get power because of the promises that attract people and that they do seem to keep.--to get rid of exploiters.

She was spoiling for a fight

Comment on Red Pill Girl blog:

"I vividly remember my ex. When she was having a bad day, something upset her, was spoiling for a fight that had nothing to do with us … I’d grab a rag and container of comet [soap]." CLEAN …" I would tell her. And after awhile she knew the drill. Rag and scrub and clean and make her house her home. Made her feel better. Feel settled. It worked. She’d work out her energy and feel better."


I think a lot of guys go through the same thing. They get home after a frustrating day and they find their wife just ready and raring for a fight. But if they take the soft approach, she gets more and more angry because he refuses to fight. If he takes the hard line they she gets to go to court and accuse him of abuse.
Today women have dug themselves into a deep pit- with the help of the "religious leaders" of course--the agents of the Dark Side. Religious teachers teach  but they present the  paradigm of the Sitra Achra [Dark Side] as a traditional Torah paradigm and not a  creation of their delusions.  This is far more dangerous than the overt teaching of idolatry.

The best idea that I know is that of Reb Israel Salanter--to learn Musar {Mediaeval Ethics.} but along with outdoor skills. That is to learn ethics and loyal and dependability is not just from books but from team work and practice.--That is the origin of the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts. [Nowadays the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are no good. They gave up their morality for money.]

Evil religious leaders. This is a subject that  has been around. My first thought is the false prophets. Then warnings in the Talmud about the פרושים "Pharisee"-usually identified as Talmud scholars, but in fact people the Talmud criticizes as being hypocritical . But it comes up  so often that I wonder if perhaps it is not from the curse of Jeremiah since God sent us true prophets and we did not listen so he will send false prophets and to them we will listen. The trouble is this---there are true teachers but they generally are willfully ignorant about the presence of bad teachers or are quiet about this problem. In the ocean of false and bad teachers how many people are willing to state the truth fearlessly? Not many. Most teachers would loose  their livelihoods.

Here is a comment from the blog Dalrock:
 "I am the first to admit that I was a total supplicating husband (aka Kitchen Bitch) because I was fully indoctrinated into the ideology through  marriage books and programs. I bathed the kids, put them to bed, changed the diapers, washed the dishes, cooked, cleaned, and this was in addition to operating my own construction company and tending to the yard and maintenance and repairs. It caused my ex to only grow deeper and deeper into depression and misery, lose all attraction and respect for me, withdraw completely from sex and affection, ultimately divorce.\
 I watch so many couples living this out now still and I openly try to warn my friends and other husbands away from it. I subsequently have few friends and the wives are not keen on their husbands hanging out with me. The blatant feminism, divorce encouragement, cowardice of religious  leaders who  continue to promote this garbage and bow before their wives and all other women in the congregation..."



I should mention: 

There is nothing disjunctive about והוא ימשול בך “and he will rule over you and to him will be your desire” which God said to Eve is a regular Hebrew phrase and its meaning is not ambiguous.

מושל there is used many times in the Bible. One example is להשם המלוכה ומושל בגוים To God is the kingship and ruler-ship over the nations. The idea comes up also in the book of Esther the letters that were sent out by Xerxes “that ever man should rule over his own home and speak in his own language.”
Why would a pastor claim this is disjunctive when it is clearly not so is beyond me.
It could not be more clear.